What Will Be The Best Two Used Buys From Each Country This Decade?

"Wobbles the Mind" (wobblesthemind) 11/19/2018 at 13:40 • Filed to: Questions

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Let’s jump forward to the 2020s . When shopping for cars between 2010-2019 , w hat will be the best TWO used cars from German, Japanese, American, Italian, British, Korean, and Eurother Brands?

For me :

German

- BMW 2-Series

- VW Golf (MK7)

Japanese

- Toyota 4Runner

- Honda Accord (c urrent gen)

American

- Chevrolet Corvette (C7)

- Ford F-150 (current gen)

Italian

- Fiat 500 Abarth

- Alfa Romeo Stelvio

British

- Jaguar F-Type

- Mini Countryman (current gen)

Korean

- Kia Stinger

- Kia Niro

Eurother

- Volvo V60 (pre - VEA)

- Volvo XC60 (current gen)

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > Wobbles the Mind 11/19/2018 at 13:46

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The Abarth is already one hell of a buy. Was soooo tempted to buy one recently. Especially if you can find a manual soft top I think that’d be a pretty awesome silly car.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Wobbles the Mind 11/19/2018 at 13:52

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*will still be buying shitboxes from the 80s in the 2020s*

nj959 > Wobbles the Mind 11/19/2018 at 13:58

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4runners don’t lose value though so you may as well buy a new one.

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > Wobbles the Mind 11/19/2018 at 13:59

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You got EU wrong.

At least one of the EUs is going to be the Porsche 997.2 GTS (9A1 engine - non-IMS ) not just because of appreciation but because the 9A1 is extremely reliable. One could reasonably argue the more accurate statement would be ‘Porsches with the 9A1 engine.’ Coupled to a manual transmission, you do the HPFP once at ~40-60k miles (there’s a revised part) and they will go forever.

Korea’s also a point of contention... yes, the SUV craze is somewhat cyclical, but the fact is Hyundai/Kia SUVs hold value absurdly well. We’re talking truly insane numbers here . If you go out and buy a Hyundai Santa Fe (MSRP $25k,) put 50k miles on it in 2 years and get in a wreck, it’ll still sell in the mid-18's.

The mid-18's! For a Korean SUV synonymous with ‘major engine failure’ and ‘major electrical failure’ less than a decade ago! I can’t even TOUCH a 2017 repo for under $20k and higher trim models start in the mid-20's!

While we might lust for the Stinger here on Oppo, I do not see it aging well at all. Sorry folks. It’s just not going to hold up. Especially not with Kia’s rumored plans to introduce a V8 Stinger. That goes triple if they engage in continuous improvement; by 2021 , the ‘18-’19 Stinger GT is likely to look dated and pathetic by comparison. That said, I have a strong suspicion the Genesis G70 will be the one to take it’s place. It’s likely to depreciate extremely aggressively with poor sales , and by all reports, is the Stinger GT’s superior in every way.

Japan’s also wrong, though largely because of the current SUV cycle. If we go by “bargain” it’s going to be compact SUVs, take your pick. If we go by “cult following” it’s going to be Tacos and Land Cruisers. But we’re all lying to ourselves there.

It’s Civic Type R. Denying it is useless.

Future next gen S2000 owner > Wobbles the Mind 11/19/2018 at 14:00

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GT350 R. Everything else is irrelevant.

Pich, with Z32 now featuring Civic [Si] / No > Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks 11/19/2018 at 14:14

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Type R

Accord 2.0T 6MT

fintail > Wobbles the Mind 11/19/2018 at 14:28

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I think 2012+ V8 W212s will be a good deal. They are much easier to live with than earlier models, and can be tuned to put out a lot of power - all while depreciating away like any normal E-class.

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > Wobbles the Mind 11/19/2018 at 14:33

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I’m making picks based on depreciation and usefulness:

German: MkVII GTI and E9X

Japanese: GX and GS

American: New Silverado V8 and current gen Mustang

Italian: Base Guila and 500 Abarth. Maybe the 124Spyder but idk if that’s really Italian or Japanese.

British: Disco 4 or 5 and Lotus Elise

Korean: Stinger and Equus

Shift24 > Wobbles the Mind 11/19/2018 at 15:17

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Depends on what your looking for. True Jalop style something reliable and under ~ $ 20K ? Or have money dont care if it brakes? Im going true jalop

EU

Germans Lux - No. Ok m aybe M240i
VW- Golf (GTi and so on)
Brits - Haaaaaaa... wait your not joking? Ok possibly F-Type
Others - Want but know the headache - All volvo
911 still not affordable  

Asia

Civic Si
Civic Type R
Accord Coupe and current 2.0T MT
Stinger GT
WRX/STi
FRS/BR-Z
Miata
Corolla Hatch
4Runner/GX460
Tundra/Taco

US

ATS-V/ATS Vsport
Maybe CTS-V
Camaro
SS
Corvette
Di rty max ZR2
Mustang
FiST/FoST/RS
Charger/Challenger

ranwhenparked > Wobbles the Mind 11/19/2018 at 18:41

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An expert mechanic I really trust told me its going to be the E140 Corolla, and most certainly not the FR-S, since its really just a Subaru and not a proper Celica successor. Also, stay away from the current Accord, since its turbocharged.

Stef Schrader > Wobbles the Mind 11/19/2018 at 19:52

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German:

- Cayenne Diesel

- Cayenne DIIIIII IESEL!

tbh nothing else matters because I really want a Cayenne Diesel

nermal > Wobbles the Mind 11/19/2018 at 20:10

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It really depends on what you’re going for. Are you looking for something that plummets in value, and thus is able to be picked up for “pennies on the dolla”? If so, your best bet is an EV. Specifically, Chevy Volt / BMW i3 / Nissan Leaf. There should be newer, better versions of these out in the next few years which will drive down the cost of the current ones.

The Stinger and any of the Genesis cars will also be stupid cheap in a few years. Same goes for current Alfas, Fiats, or Maseratis .

On the flip side, HD diesel trucks will continue to command ridiculous prices as newer, more expensive versions come out. Clean pre-emissions (2007 and older) models will continue to go up in value as their availability drops. The key is to find a truck driven by a grandpa, not one driven by a bro. 

pip bip - choose Corrour > Wobbles the Mind 11/20/2018 at 06:21

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Australia - Ford Falcon XR8 ute and Holden Commodore SSV ute